On January 15, 2020, Virginia became the 38th important state to approve the Equal Rights Amendment (ERA), which is a proposed amendment to the U.S. Constitution and reads: “The United States or the United States shall not deny or deprive legal rights Equality of rights, or sex as a goal in any country.” Virginia’s approval raises important questions about the feasibility of an amendment that has been blocked for decades.
In the ongoing struggle for equality and freedom, what is ERA’s commitment? What role did people of color play to ensure ERA? After the death of Justice Ruth Bard Ginsburg, what is the modern platform for women’s equality?
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On January 15 this year, Virginia became the 38th important state to ratify the Equal Rights Amendment (ERA). ERA is a proposed amendment to the U.S. Constitution, which states: “The U.S. or any country shall not refuse or deprive equal rights in law because of gender.”
Three-quarters of the states (that is, 38 states) need to approve an amendment before it can be added to the constitution.
Therefore, Virginia’s approval raises important questions about the feasibility of amendments that have stalled for decades. Despite the 1982 deadline, can ERA be included in the Constitution now? Are the five states’ efforts to withdraw ERA effective? What needs to be done to finally add ERA to the Constitution?
A very special guest is to help us solve these problems and how to think about them more.
Jennifer Carroll Foy (Jennifer Carroll Foy) also joined me. She is a member of the Virginia House of Representatives and is running for governor in Virginia. She joined the Virginia House of Representatives in 2017 and led the approval of the Equal Rights Amendment in Virginia. She passed legislation against teacher shortages in Virginia and voted to expand Medicaid to 400,000 people.
I also joined with Ellie Smeal. She is the co-founder and president of the Feminist Majority and Feminist Majority Foundation, and the former chairman of the National Women’s Organization.
Governor Juliana Stratton also joined me. She is the 48th Lieutenant Governor of Illinois. She leads the Justice, Equity, and Opportunity Initiative and chairs the Illinois Women and Girls Council, the Governor’s Rural Affairs Council, the Military Economic Development Council, and the Illinois River Coordination Council.
Finally, Dr. Julie Suk also joined my discussion. She is a Florence Rogatz visiting professor at Yale Law School and a professor of sociology, political science and general education at the Graduate Center of the City University of New York. She recently published “We Women: Unstoppable Mothers with Equal Rights” and often commented on legal issues affecting women in the media. Welcome to our ladies magazine show.
Thank you very much for joining us to discuss these very important issues of our time, especially after the death of Justice Ruth Bud Ginsburg. At present, many things are at risk in our legislature and courts. Why are women’s rights and women’s equality still an important issue?
This is Ellie Smeal. They are important issues because we still do not have equality and the wage gap still exists. According to the law, all kinds of discrimination still exist. Therefore, it will be a serious problem before the discrimination is eliminated.
You know, Julie, let me turn to you. So how does ERA solve it? I mean, what does the resurrection of the ERA battle mean for gender equality? Can you give us some history, especially considering your new book “We Women: Unstoppable Mothers with Equal Rights”?
absolute. Thank you very much for letting me participate in the show, and thank you for your questions. Therefore, I think that when Pauli Murray testified before the Senate Judiciary Committee in 1970, women’s rights linked women’s equal rights with women’s equal rights, and I think it is also in other sources of law. No connection established.
Since ERA was first proposed in 1923 and adopted by Congress in the 1970s, great progress has been made, but this progress is about incorporating the concept of gender equality into the existing doctrine of equal protection. I think fundamentally Although many achievements have been made in this process, it is not perfect. The difficulty lies in the fact that, as the constitutional maker, women’s voices and the existence of basic power imbalances do not pay enough attention to women.
You mentioned Pauli Murray. Thank you very much for raising her. You know, she is indeed a trailblazer, the true predecessor of Justice Ruth Bud Ginsburg, not only in the American Civil Liberties Union where they all worked, but also in Pauli Murray’s successor After that, and actually laying the foundation to achieve racial equality and gender equality, much of her pioneering work was indeed lost by American jurisprudence.
So, I am glad you mentioned her name and brought her back to life. Let’s listen to other people’s editing is the story is very important, that is Shirley Chisholm, the first African-American woman elected as a member of Congress, let us listen to her views on equality. This is a clip from October 3, 1983, shortly after she decided not to run for Congress.
I am here tonight specifically to talk about women and blacks in the league. First of all, I want to read to you the words of another famous woman from Massachusetts, Abigail Adams, who was the wife of the second president of the United States of America. In a letter to her husband at the Continental Congress in the 18th century, she advised the future president of the United States, and this is what she said.
She said, remember the ladies and be more generous and beneficial to them than your ancestors. Don’t give this unlimited power to your husband. Remember, all men will be tyrants if they will, and remember, this is not a modern feminist, ladies and gentlemen. The 18th century old Abigail (Abigail).
Without paying special attention to the ladies, we are determined to incite rebellion, and we will not be bound by any law in which we have no say or representation. End the offer. More than 200 years after her quill brushed the words on the paper, this land, this society and this economy are still ruled by her husband and some resolutely ruling dictators.
So, Ellie, you know this history very well. In the 1970s, as the chairman of the National Women’s Organization, you took the lead in approving the Equal Rights Amendment, which is the largest national grassroots organization and lobbying activity in the history of the modern women’s movement. Tell us about success, why failed?
Well, the success is that we put it on the map. I mean, basically everyone knows this. We are far ahead in the polls. We are far ahead in the opinion polls, and indeed, I think this drives the whole movement. Even pausing it stimulates exercise, because people can see where we are being cheated. You know, why do you need it when you first started? One thing we revealed is the huge discrimination against insurance prices and benefits.
In fact, this struggle continues to this day. One thing they didn’t say enough about the Affordable Care Act is that the Act now contains a clause that you cannot charge more or less based on gender until the clause (in 2010 only) that women Just started paying. The amount of health insurance is twice that, and because they must cover maternity, 80% of private insurance plans do not cover maternity. Therefore, we have achieved both. We pay more, but get less.
I think it is difficult for people to understand such an extreme way, which is not actually a hidden way, to discriminate against women economically. So, Lieutenant Stratton, I want to invite you. In 2018, when Illinois approved the ERA, you represented the fifth district of the Illinois House of Representatives. During the debate, you talked about the discrimination you face as a black woman. After the ERA passed with one vote in favor, you wrote on Twitter: “I am very proud to pass the historic vote to pass the Illinois ERA.” Can you tell us?
Oh absolutely, I am very proud of being able to vote, and I am still very proud. I remember that in the House of Representatives meeting it was just a conversation, a very intense conversation, actually because there are many women of color, especially black women. They are my colleagues in the Illinois House of Representatives. They are worried about black women. Related issues are often forgotten in this struggle and in the dialogue around equal rights. Are black women included in that conversation?
When I stood talking, I thought of my mother, my grandmother and great-grandmother, and it can be traced back to the history when I was governor when I talked about women before me, including those enslaved children, I Thinking of my four daughters, four black daughters, I stood on the shoulders of my ancestors. My daughters are standing on my shoulders. In fact, what I thought just now was that I was fighting for myself to make my daughters entitled to the rights protected by the Constitution.
I did speak frankly about the discrimination that I face as a black woman, but this is one way we can continue to discriminate against all women, and I urge everyone that all my colleagues in the House of Representatives Ensure that black women, Hispanic and indigenous women, and Asian women and all women will continue to be at the forefront of these conversations.
I am glad you mentioned this, because what is often overlooked in these equality struggles is how they affect the lives of black and brown women, and Asian women. You know that the women’s movement is generally considered a white women’s movement and therefore has no real connection with women of color, so what does your attempt to convey this message to other women of color in the legislature look like to you? ?
Well, you know, I don’t know how… I don’t remember voting, so I don’t remember if I conveyed this message effectively, but I can say that I spoke very enthusiastically because I do believe it as I thought Ida B. Wells, like the women’s suffrage movement, was told that she had been fighting for women’s right to vote.
But when it came to the women’s suffrage march (the first time), she was told to go to the back of the parade with about 60 other black women. She said that I would either not go with you. I think it’s me. The same point raised, we must all do it together. If someone… our liberation is interdependent, and there is only a group of free women, then none of us is free.
All of us must continue to fight for justice, fairness and opportunity, and we must work together. So I think I will speak as enthusiastically as possible. I can say that I know that many people say that they certainly support ideas that are not always correct, but as we move forward, we will certainly work to ensure this. , We ensure that all women participate in this fight.
This is a very important point, you want to emphasize the importance of all women working together and what this means for mentioning many other ships. Let’s talk about Senator Pat Spearman from Nevada, who came to Illinois to share stories about Nevada, and what she said in this clip is the actual meaning of ERA for women of color. Governor Stratton speaks exactly what you want.
So I said this. When it was introduced in 1972, some people thought it might be the same thing. When we were fighting for ERA in Nevada, black women, white women, Latino women, Asian women, everyone fought with me to fight for this. These 24 words guarantee women’s rights. It guarantees the rights of women. No word analysis only speaks of white women. There is no interpretation of what only Latinos say, it speaks of all women. Now, we all know that after the law is passed, the next thing we must do is to change our minds.
Therefore, in the next few years, hope that not many people will understand that this is all women, and I believe that once, once, women who have suffered domestic violence, women who have suffered mental and physical abuse, who have suffered, I believe it will be done once and for all, and let the woman say that it is my constitutional right to protect me. We are still… we are still fighting for pay equality. If we have payment rights, we will not need it. So, as a black woman, I think this applies to me.
On behalf of Jennifer Carroll Foy, thank you very much for participating in this performance. I want to ask you now. Likewise, you played a pivotal role in this movement, not just a moment, which led to the effort to approve ERA in your home state of Virginia. Now, as the initiator of the House of Representatives ERA measure, you tell your colleagues that they have cited “lifetime voting.” You said that 160 million women and girls across the country are waiting and will be changed forever because of what happens here today. Can you talk about why it took so long for Virginia to approve ERA and your experience in leading this work to the ultimate success of your home country?
absolute. So thank you. I am honored and honored to have such an outstanding group and thank you for your invitation, so I want to make sure that everyone from Republicans, Democrats, and independent thinkers knows what happened. Think this is not a partisan issue. Equality is equal to everyone, everyone should work hard for equality, so we must look back to the past and figure out why it has no past, what is the missing link, because Virginia has a great chance to finally embark on history The right way.
I mean, Virginia is the ancient capital, the Confederacy, and we oppose apartheid. We are opposed to interracial marriages. We oppose women’s right to vote. Therefore, this is our chance to finally stand in the right place in history and do the right thing for the time being. Therefore, because I am one of the first women graduated from Virginia Military Academy, because of the Supreme Court Justice Ginsburg. It plays an important role in my life and the decisions and trajectories taken.
I know that she hopes to pass the “Equal Rights Amendment”, which is something she has always said. She wants her granddaughter to look at the constitution in her pocket and see ERA there. I know this is important. Therefore, in cooperation with Ellie Smeal and the feminist majority, NOW and Delta Sigma Theta Sorority, Incorporated and VA Ratify ERA, a bus tour was conducted throughout Virginia to stimulate and arouse people’s attention to the Equal Rights Amendment. .
Why it is necessary and necessary, why it is not a dead question, why it is to help us get equal pay for equal work and help sexism and let people know the answer to war against women. That is not an exaggeration. I hope it is, but it is not. I listened to the dialogues of many far-right Republicans. This is a total violation of women’s rights to reproductive health, our right to be free from violence, and our right to equal pay for equal work.
So I know that this will help push the agenda forward, so that we can do it, have multiple pauses in the Commonwealth, make sure people know what is going to happen, and then stand up and tell the Republicans that there is something we don’t agree with. Infrastructure and education, anyway, but I am not a first-class citizen of this country.
Therefore, if I cannot change your view of women’s equality, I assure you. I will change your position. With the help of all these organizations, we can actually do this, and we see that women’s equality will begin next year next year, and we actually won three consecutive championships here. Virginia is because of this. This is the key and moving point.
So please tell us about the three-game winning streak, because sometimes people think, okay, let’s slow down on this because we don’t want people to close the door. We don’t want to shut people out. They just didn’t prepare for women’s equality. They just aren’t going to see women of color standing in front, leading something, so slow down, but this is not the story of Virginia. So, can you tell us some stories about women’s three-game winning streak and success?
Yes, you nailed your head to your head. Virginia’s approach is gradual change, right? So, when I was elected in 2017, I am part of this wave of democratic leadership flooded in Virginia. I believe in boldness, transformational change and women’s equality to help women realize their full possibilities and potential. It cannot wait any longer.
We waited too long. We have waited long enough, so because we organized and mobilized this movement, we were able to win three consecutive championships, and then, because of this movement, we were able to make Virginia the first to obtain LGBTQ in accommodation and employment + Protected southern states. The first southern state enacted a 100% zero carbon emission standard, which made it easier to enter the valley, made voting a holiday in the state, and repealed strict voter ID laws.
I mean, you said it, we did it, that’s because we inspired support and effort, this is the answer to make changes and make sure people know that we must agitate for equality and never refuse, now is the time . We will not be trapped. We will no longer wait. We must make an effort and do this. Real equality is now constitutional equality.
This is really amazing. For our listeners, when you talk about three combos, can you tell our listeners what it means?
absolute. Therefore, three-game winning streak means that we have to hold the entire conference. So we have the State Capitol. We have the House of Representatives. You know, in some other states, it is called a member of the House of Representatives or the state version of the House of Representatives. Therefore, we have the entire democratic assembly and the governorship.
Gosh, you guys really caused something to happen there. I want to go back to Dr. Su Ke, because together with your book, you fill the gap in one thing… I really like this book. This is a good book. It’s the roof where you have increased the contribution of women of color to this movement in many ways, and women of color are often written as stories or put their contributions aside, but this is not what you did in the book, so it is mentioned Pauli Murray and Patsy Mink and Shirley Chisholm.
Moreover, Shirley Chisholm said that the constitution they wrote was designed to protect the rights of white male citizens because there are no black founding fathers. There is no founding mother, which is a pity in both aspects. It is not too late to complete the work they have not yet completed. Today, here, we should start doing this. Tell our listeners why this is so important to you, so that women of color play a central role in telling the history of women’s equality and the fight for equal rights amendments.
Thanks, Michelle. I think women’s equality is not only important for women’s equality, but also because of the country’s constitutional future and the relationship between our constitutional future and our constitutional past, because we live in a Shirley Chisholm ) In the countries mentioned, if there is no official founding mother, respect the founding father instead of doing that.
After the First World War and the Second World War, women from many other countries participated in the constitutional conventions and formulated constitutions that included equal rights for women. Most constitutions of the 20th century did this. Almost all 21st century constitutions are doing this, but our constitution is one of the oldest in the world, written by white people (some of whom have slaves), so Barbara Jordan said, As she heard on TV about Nixon’s impeachment in the 1970s, we people…
This is a constitution that has legitimacy for people like me, women of color, and people who were not included as full citizens when the country was founded. It has legitimacy because we can change it, because there is an amendment procedure, but if the amendment procedure does not allow a morally impeccable amendment to ensure equality between men and women, both men and women enjoy equal rights and lose legitimacy.
And I think the lack of founding mothers is an issue of the legitimacy of the U.S. Constitution. Therefore, if you look back at the history of ERA, this is an amendment written by women, and its meaning has changed over time because of the way women participate in the democratic process. Women were elected members of Congress. Women file lawsuits and enact laws on the meaning of true equality in the United States.
And, if you do not legalize the process by adding this amendment, you can say that we still have not created a mother, or worse, we have created a mother, we just don’t want to admit it, and therefore underestimate the status of women. Work again. Therefore, I think this is indeed closely related to ERA. We can consider many specific issues.
Will ERA do anything about equal pay for equal work? What will it do about pregnancy discrimination issues, but I think these issues are not the main reason for the amendments. In fact, this is related to the role of women as constitution maker and people bound by the 21st century constitution.
Well, it is important to mention this, especially after the death of Justice Ruth Bud Ginsburg. It is worth noting that during Pauli Murray’s succession to the Women’s Rights Project, and during her tenure at the American Civil Liberties Union, she participated in approximately 66% of women’s equality or the fight against gender-based discrimination in Supreme Court proceedings. Sex law. Therefore, 66% of the archives were generated by Ruth Bud Ginsburg ACLU.
During her tenure, the ACLU enacted more than 300 gender-based discrimination laws at the state and federal levels. So for those who want to know, what this is all about… and this is just part of it. Therefore, just considering the 300 laws is only part of all the discriminatory effects on women. I want to talk about the meaning of this fight now, because the time window to approve ERA is very long.
We saw the great movement in Illinois and the great movement in Nevada, and the great movement in Virginia consolidated the number of states necessary for approval. Ellie, where is the problem now? So some people say, well, it’s too late. This work was supposed to be completed 20 years ago, so the fact that Nevada, Illinois, and Virginia have approved this is good, but it’s too late. What are your thoughts on that?
It’s not too late, the battle continues. After Virginia’s approval, we deleted the timetable in the House of Representatives, and now, we’re talking about equality issues going on on November 3, because if we transfer the Senate from Republican control to democratic control, we will then, in In January or the beginning of the new session, the deadlines for the Senate and the Senate are cancelled. We think this is enough.
After all, they stick to the schedule. They can cancel the timetable, and this is about to happen, as you know, it’s also in court, and you know, these originalists have been saying that they will do it the way it was then. Written 200 years ago. Well, there is no deadline or time limit for the amendment process of the Constitution. Therefore, if you follow the original document, we have approved ERA.
We have passed it through Congress and have obtained it through 38 states. This matter should now be included in the Constitution. We believe this is in the voting, because we can know with certainty that if the new government takes office and the Biden government takes office, they will not instruct the archivists through the Ministry of Justice. Imagine that the Ministry of Justice is told…or the Attorney General (Archivist) does not accept ERA.
Well, when the constitution was passed, there was no Ministry of Justice. Without the archivist, the president is excluded from the procedure. So, in my opinion, they will flip it by allowing archivists to put it in, so I think we will… be voting. If we flip the Senate and who is in the White House, I think there is no doubt that it will be enshrined in the Constitution.
Therefore, before I return to Lieutenant Governor Stratton, I just want to ask one more question, Ellie. How do you feel about flipping the Senate? So someone will say, okay, that makes sense, but it looks like the seat that needs to be moved will be moved? Looks like Mitch McConnell (Mitch McConnell), will he lose his seat? Looks like Lindsey Graham might lose his seat or any other seat?
Well, as you know, Lindsey Graham is currently tied with Jamie Harrison, but not only that, at least 10 seats are in fierce competition. The Democratic Party has taken the lead in several seats. I think it is very possible. Either way, either we will change the deadline in this way, or we will win in court, but I believe we have basically completed the work required by the constitution.
We have approved the approvals of 38 states, accounting for three-quarters of the necessary, and have been passed by Congress, so basically, I think we are in good shape, but I do think we will flip that Senate, which is why we The reason to work hard for this, because we don’t want to leave any questions. We are here. It took us nearly 100 years to achieve this goal, and we are leaving, and there is a huge grassroots movement.
By the way, one of the reasons we recognize… The reason we moved Jamie Harrison is that South Carolina’s ERA movement is so strong that the first thing he does is he participates in ERA. Look, there is a grassroots movement here. I think people are committed to the Equal Rights Amendment day after day. Every state has it. As Jennifer said, in Virginia, we spent a long time, why?
Because it was blocked by the leadership of the House of Representatives. They blocked it there for a reason. There are opponents in the fight for equality, but the most important thing is that it has received huge support from the grassroots. Now is the time to ban it, which undoubtedly doubts gender discrimination.
So I want to talk about Lieutenant Stratton. You serve as the chairperson of the Illinois Council of Women and Girls, part of the council’s goal is to develop plans and advocate policies aimed at eliminating gender pay gaps and gender discrimination in career and academic opportunities. Its purpose is to allow women and girls to obtain legal protection and recourse when they experience sexual harassment in the workplace. In view of this important work you have done, do you think it is important to add ERA to the Constitution despite the existing protection measures? Because some people say, well, look, ERA is not actually needed. You now have women in the legislature. They are helping to pass laws protecting women and girls. Why do we need ERA?
We absolutely need ERA, I just want to say that I am a little star. Ellie, you know, just want to know that you have been working for a long time to get us to this point. It’s great to be able to do a lot of work to solve this problem with all the team members today, but I like it best Is what you said at the beginning. We still do not have equal rights in many respects. Just like, we are still fighting for equal opportunities, we are still fighting for economic opportunities and all the other issues that follow.
Therefore, our Illinois Women and Girls Council is composed of 22 women from Illinois, urban communities, rural communities, different backgrounds and professional fields, different races and ethnic identities, and different genders. When you gather a group of women in When you are together and really let them tell the story and speak everywhere, you will know…
Whether we are looking at veterans, American companies, or labor unions or other fields, we will still see these inequalities. I think what ERA has done not only brings constitutional background, but also brings Some are intentional in ensuring that we are considering the impact of gender discrimination and where we need to fight for equality.
You know, I am not only thinking about some of the issues we are dealing with in the council, such as ensuring that more women and girls are directed to the STEM field, because we only know that about 30% of women are right. Now you have a STEM degree, but everyone says that this is the future, and this is where you need to ensure that there are economic opportunities. Consider the leadership of the board and the work done around leadership and inclusiveness.
We know that the most recent report revolves around the release of COVID-19, and when it comes to people who leave the workforce and positions of power, it is the women who leave these positions, not men. Women who are often female, you know… I’m the lieutenant governor, but I also have a 4-year-old child, make sure I can take care of a child while working, who can’t go to school now. You know, when I think of the murdered black cross When there are too many women of gender…
Of course, you know, raising Breonna Taylor’s name and saying her name is because we know that when I think of black women, as I said in the opening speech, no one even Brenana’s name has been said. Taylor has been outside of Kentucky until George Floyd is murdered, and so on… or health care. In terms of health and health care, black women in Illinois are six times more likely to die during childbirth than white women.
These are how ERA and we should protect our intentions equally in law, and focus on gender-based differences. These differences are usually manifested in many policy issues that we see in our country. For me , Which prompts us to continue saying don’t forget this. We still have to fight for it, and no matter who is in the General Assembly or Congress, we don’t think we have arrived.
Yes, there are more women. I’m grateful. I’m going to let more women be elected to the power and fight for these positions, but at the same time, we know that this kind of discrimination has occurred in history. No easy task. Just like racial justice, these struggles are not easy, but they must be carried out consciously, with power and true focus. I think this is what ERA does.
You talked about these issues very clearly, and I appreciate them. I want to turn to Virginia. Therefore, what we have heard before is that Virginia is difficult to decipher in some ways. This is a fact. Loving v. Virginia is from Virginia and prohibits interracial marriage. The Buck v. Bell eugenics case was filed in Virginia in 1927 and ended in the Supreme Court with the Supreme Court’s sanctions against Virginia law, which provided for the enforcement of women who were deemed morally or spiritually inappropriate in society sterilization. Jennifer, the seat of the Commonwealth is Virginia, you have already talked about it. Therefore, I want to tell you more about the importance of electing women in Virginia. How does this affect your state? How does the issue we’ve been talking about affect women in your state?
Some of the things I want to emphasize are that we must hold the United States accountable for its universal commitment to women, people of color, and marginalized communities. Therefore, we have guarantees and promises about our democracy. All people are created equal, free and justice for all people, equality and justice under the law, people and people’s rule over people, we are seeing that this is not true .
We have seen a lot of people left behind and left behind. This has been reflected in the passed bills and approved budgets. These places disrespect people and allow them to see them as a whole. A citizen of this country, so it doesn’t matter what you are saying. You may be talking about systemic historical inequalities in our healthcare and the environment, which have caused different effects of deaths and deaths of minorities due to COVID-19 contracts.
You can talk about the fact that even in the Commonwealth of Virginia, there is still the fact that voters are suppressed, and you have seen this suppression in Georgia and elsewhere, some black women are banned from voting and their turnout rate is almost the same as that of their predecessors Back in the 1920s. Therefore, many things need to happen, and the Equal Rights Amendment is one of the ways we can achieve this goal.
As we all know, Justice Scalia said very clearly in 2011 when he said that the Equal Rights Amendment did not prevent gender discrimination, and what he said was of course that the Constitution does not require discrimination on the basis of sex. The only question is whether it prohibits it. No. No one thinks what that means. No one voted for it, so we will continue to lose in court cases.
We will continue not to rely entirely on constitutional equality, because we must change the law, and it must be very clear that women’s equality is written directly into the constitution, so in Virginia, this is a moment. The reason for this is that we have basically approved the “Equal Rights Amendment” and now I am advocating and passing legislation to pass paid family sick leave. People are now more open to my bill to end the pregnancy discrimination we just passed.
Therefore, employers must provide reasonable accommodation for women who want to breastfeed so that they do not have to go to the bathroom or closet, and they do not have to be fired because they need to do these things. I just passed a bill to help reduce black maternal mortality. Urine catheters are made under Medicaid coverage so that black and brown women can get the culturally competent care we need.
Because in Virginia, due to the high content of melanin in my skin, I am three times more likely to die during childbirth and postpartum than implicit prejudice and lack of proper care, so we can directly solve this problem. We cannot let women die because of us. The appearance in the world, and the amount of melanin in our skin and on our streets. That would not happen at all, nor would it allow me to pass the bill to get breast milk insurance coverage, because black women are more likely to lose weight and premature birth.
Therefore, our babies should get the adequate food and nutrition they need when they first enter the world, and lack of affordability should not be the reason why this has not happened. Therefore, once we have discussed ERA and completed this work, there is still work to be done. We must look at women as a whole. Where can we fill these gaps? We must eliminate injustice everywhere and eliminate injustice everywhere so that women can share all the possibilities and potential, because the struggle is not over yet.
When we talk about women’s equality, we are still talking about affordable childcare, protection of reproductive health care and abortion. I mean, all these things are important to us, so we must continue to agitate for equality and fight fearlessly for change. This is our way.
I want to know from your team that Lieutenant Stratton, you may have to dismount as soon as possible in our performance. Therefore, before you go, I just want to talk about the next state you see. What are the jobs facing you and your colleagues who are fighting for gender equality? What if the audience wants to help the state of Illinois and want to think deeply about it in Illinois?
Well, we are working hard to ensure that we get advice, and the policy advice of our Illinois Council of Women and Girls moves forward, and I invite those who might want to contribute to this work to contact me through LTGOVStratton@Illinois. .gov for more information, of course, please visit our website to view the policy recommendations that have been made.
Did you know that Jennifer mentioned that Ruth Bader Ginsburg as a lawyer has had an impact on her life and mine, and I know she said that women participate All the places where decisions are made, however, even, even as the lieutenant governor, I still walk through too many rooms, and I am the only one or a few of them.
There are still too many spaces for women to be disturbed, silenced and ignored. I think what we will continue to see is that when we bring more women into these spaces where decisions are being made, we can’t just say there, oh , Great, I’m on the table. We must do something when we arrive at those tables. We must use our voice to improve justice, fairness, and opportunity for all.
We must search around those tables and make room for other women, other young women and girls, to ensure that they, especially people from marginalized communities, should be on those tables, especially people from marginalized communities, it’s us Part of the democratic system, their voice has not been weakened, and their strength is equally strong, so I think we will continue to create these spaces. Of course, now, you can see everything… you know, we are still in COVID-19.
So, as I mentioned before, not only are women in leadership positions, but I must admit that from the moment COVID emerged…women who are working every day when placing orders at home. , Walking to the front lines such as grocery stores, hospitals and buses puts yourself at risk, especially people of color, who are particularly sensitive to our communities.
Or we see that racial differences are not only vulnerable, but also more likely to die from COVID-19 due to systemic racism. Therefore, we will continue to study COVID and make sure that when thinking about how to protect people, I think this is the first consideration for everyone, and then through racial justice, we are actually revolving around racial rehabilitation and fairness and criminal justice reform in our country.
This will include attention to women, including the voices of imprisoned women. I led the National Women’s Correctional Services Act to ensure that we meet these unique needs. Therefore, we will continue to ensure that women are in these seats, and we are not only in the seats again, just to allow someone to check a box, and we are heard, seen, we are valued, this policy is not It’s made for us, but it’s made by us. For me, this is when we really see the results of ERA come true.
Okay, thank you very much. It is an honor to be able to invite you to our program, and I hope you can come back. I know your team has a lot of work to do today. So I am very happy…
Every day. Every day, but I hope to come back, and I like this conversation very much, and I hope that while you continue to do this excellent work, continue to pay attention to everyone. Thanks, Michelle.
thank you very much. Thank you. thank you very much. Therefore, I want to open to our panel at the beginning of the last quarter of the show, this is considering ERA and whether it is far enough. Therefore, when you wrote this book, Julie talked about the historical basis of sports. Someone might say, um, did you know that the original ERA expects LGBTQ people to be equal? What is your response… I want to open it up to everyone, about ERA, because it has been reintroduced, whether any updates to the language are actually needed to include everything more clearly, or whether it’s already popular to mark the correct location where is it?
I think this is actually a very complicated issue because ERA was originally drafted and introduced in 1923, but because of its special history, what does it actually mean, but in fact, it was passed by Congress in 1972. It was then approved by most states in the 1970s, but it was completed in the 21st century because of many intervening legal developments that have changed the focus and goals.
Some of the goals proposed by the supporters of ERA in the 1970s have actually been achieved by equal protection jurisprudence, while others have not yet been achieved. Therefore, I think that constitutional law scholars will like this big question very much, but I think it also leads to a very important meaning, that is, the text of “ERA” refers to the law, and must not be rejected by the United States or any state because of gender. Or abridged.
It is unclear how these words will solve all the issues we have discussed in the past 45 minutes. Generally speaking, when we use the words stipulated by the laws of the United States or any state, we tend to think that this is just prohibiting government discrimination against gender, which will solve the problem of unequal and pay inequality in civil servants. Engaging in public work, but this does not directly solve large companies with insufficient salaries.
It will not directly address many of the root causes of the problems that we have been talking about in the past 45 minutes, and I think this is the emergence of Section 2 of the ERA, which authorizes Congress to enforce it, and I think, in fact, we must also treat the people The ERA made by several generations and the ERA actually implemented by lawyers and judges are realistic, while the reality of the judicial department is that Trump has appointed a quarter of federal judges.
I think the composition of the Supreme Court may have a different view of the meaning of equality from some supporters of ERA. Therefore, historically, I actually presented this book from the perspective of an originalist. Some people might say what the makers and founders of ERA mean, and how it changes over time, this is Why do I think that not only getting ERA, but the way to get ERA is actually very important…
Because one of the really influential things in the three recent ratifications of Nevada, Illinois and Virginia is that they have caused live debate. So if the framers of the 1970s did not talk about transgender people, then the ratifiers of the 21st century are like this. Member of the Virginia House of Representatives Danica Roem (Danica Roem) stood up and said that the public meaning of gender today certainly includes discrimination based on sexual orientation or gender identity.
It is the opportunity to create meaning in the context of the new ratification, and at the same time very important is the process by which Congress cancels the deadline. Ellie mentioned earlier, I totally agree with her that Congress has the right to delete deadlines. I think this road is actually very important because in Congress all these women and all those women of color who were newly elected stood by Get up and say: What does it mean today? Nancy Pelosi stands up and talks about the lack of care for pregnant women at work.
Pregnant women are unemployed. This is the inequality problem today. It should be able to tell us our views on ERA. I think that most of the heavy work will not be solved by the courts. They will be carried out by members of Congress and the state legislature in the future, which is actually part of the original vision of ERA from 1970 to 1972. When Patsy Mink and Shirley Chisholm advanced ERA on the House floor, they pointed out that the all-male Supreme Court has never recognized gender discrimination as a problem, and they said it has nothing to do with the Supreme Court.
The Supreme Court could have taken measures to eliminate gender discrimination, but in reality, this will give the state legislatures and Congress political legitimacy, and achieve equality through other legislation. In the past 45 minutes, we talked about many different effects. The Supreme Court said that in equal protection cases, different effects are not a constitutional issue. There will be judges in the lower courts and the Supreme Court, and when they ask to enforce ERA, they will tend to say the same.
The only thing that prevents them is that we are now creating legislative history by clearly stating that we want ERA to respond to different impacts, and this is indeed in the hands of legislators in state legislatures and members of Congress who continue to approve in the 21st century, and they will be right when the deadline is removed. What does it mean to express important opinions.
of course. Well, I personally think, and I also testify about it, when we expand, I personally think it does cover sexism, I think Gorsoki’s decision was in July, when he…
Yes, Bostock. He said this involves transgender people, the LGBT transgender community. So I think so. I also think that once it is incorporated into law, it will take two years to take effect, right? And I think this gives us the opportunity to study all laws in the 50 states and at the federal level, not just laws. Policy, I personally think this will lead to the cleanup of many laws in the law, which should not exist and will make women shrink.
Therefore, I am very excited about the next stage. Frankly speaking, the approved state of Virginia is going through the state I think now, and I don’t know if they are going to visit the law school on site or virtual tour. They want the law school to start research What does this mean for your state, which laws will be repealed, and which traditions will be repealed? So I said this will be an exciting time. You know, we moved the feminist majority party headquarters in Virginia because we want to approve Virginia. We took longer than I thought, but we still did it.
I remember that I was the president of NOW. We were buying a house at the time. The name of my husband at the time was written on it. It said et ux. I was talking about et ux. They said, um, that’s you and your wife. I said, well, you don’t even have my first name, let alone my last name. What are you talking about, do you know? I would file a lawsuit, but I was very busy at the time and did not do so, but I want to know if there are more of these equivalence laws somewhere in the book?
Obviously, they should all be deleted. I think…By the way, I think the divorce law is part of all these hesitations. People didn’t say that, but we came across this. We don’t want to empower women. what are you saying? In many states, women’s divorce agreements have a short period. So it will have an impact, and I think it will have an impact on eliminating gender discrimination.
By the way, regarding employment issues, please remember that the federal and state governments are the largest contractors in the United States. think about it. So yes, it will definitely cover the civil service and get rid of discrimination in actual government work, but how can the government continue to sign contracts with employers that do not implement gender discrimination? I personally think this will be part of the whole process.
I do believe that it will eventually apply to the contract, and the contract is of great significance. I have definitions of large business and small business. Large companies refer to large companies with the government as the main contractor. Small businesses, we are dealing with individuals. I mean, let us become a reality. Look at all the large contractors in the US government. They employ millions of people and I think it will affect them. hope so.
Well, you gave us a lot of opportunities to think. We have reached this point in the show, and we want to consider a silver lining. What’s next? Throughout the process, what have you seen, we can say, well, there are some things worth thinking about, and it turns out that our audience really resonates with our audience. So I want to start with you first, Jennifer Carroll Foy. Can you tell us a glimmer of hope about your struggle for ERA?
absolute. I think my glimmer of hope for the equal rights amendment began before that. It just started to see injustice. As a girl in Petersburg, Virginia, this is one of the poorest communities in the UK. When I was young, my grandmother raised me, suffered a stroke and became a quadriplegic, so I had to sit at the table and had to decide what I wanted To repay the mortgage that month, she still had to pay for her medical bills and medications to sustain her life.
Therefore, seeing the equality between men and women and the inequality between men and women, Justice Ginsberg said in listening and listening that women should be given the opportunity to go to the Virginia Military Academy because this is a laboratory and leadership skills. , This is an extraordinary educational experience, only suitable for extraordinary people, and said that if there is a chance, women can do everything, and then hear and realize that at that moment I was demoted to a second-class citizen because I was a woman…
And someone must be willing to break through the trails and break their barriers, and ensure that even though you may be the first, your duty and responsibility is to ensure that you are definitely not the last. So I think all these things have helped build a strong force, which can be said to be bigger than me. Bigger than us. In fact, there are approximately 165 million women who need to realize their full potential and potential, but this can only be done if we give our best.
Therefore, the “Equal Rights Amendment” gave me a sword against injustice and discrimination. I think that is amazing. Now I will use it as the next governor of Virginia on a larger scale to ensure that As the deputy governor said, transparent wages, equal pay for equal work, paid family sick leave, affordable childcare, everything women need to continue to grow and develop, just as the deputy governor said, the Ginsburg Justice (Ginsburg) ), women are the place for all decision-making.
This is what the “Equal Rights Amendment” means to me. This is what the women in this group mean to me, and I want to thank everyone for everything they have done in this struggle.
Representative, thank you very much. I thank you very much for being here and running for governor in the battle as you mentioned. This is absolutely amazing, Julie, how about you? A ray of hope.
Therefore, a glimmer of hope is a long-term perspective, just as we think of Jennifer Carroll Foy, Juliana Stratton and Jenny McClellan of Virginia, Pat Spearman of Nevada, Shirley Chisholm, Patsy Mink, Pauly Murray of Nevada, like Justice Ginsberg (our late Justice Ginsburg), these women are our founding mothers , Is the founding mother of the Constitution, that is a project…
I mean, if we consider the ERA as one of many amendments, the last time we made an amendment to the constitution was in 1992, a year when I was not old enough to vote. That was a long time ago. That was the last century, and the amendment was the 27th amendment, written by the founding father James Madison.
Therefore, I do think that completing ERA (an amazing cross-generational project done by women) will open up dialogue and possibilities so that all of us can see ourselves as constitutional framers and framers and feel that we are included in the formulation Not only Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, George Washington and Alexander Hamilton, but also Jennifer Carol Foy, Pat Spearman, Juliana Stratton, and Poly Murray, Patsy Mink and Martha Griffiths, and these women who have been passed down from generation to generation. Women enjoy equal rights in democracy, but have equal rights.
How powerful is that? I totally agree with you. The business of establishing who our founding mother is and what it means to future generations and how they understand this is very, very powerful. As time goes by, women are true leaders, inspired not only in their time, but also in the future. Allie, we will contact you. A silver lining?
A silver lining? I think the fight for the Equal Rights Amendment will help establish a feminist movement in the United States and the frankly world. The fight for the equality of women in all the new constitutions, as we all know, we have succeeded on a global scale, but I think I’m not sure what the women’s sports will look like without a fight, but I know one thing, it helped establish This movement.
But it has been a long time since we started to move on to the next step and gain real strength. You know, I looked up while I was talking. We still account for only 25% of Congress and only 25% to 30% of the State Assembly. At the beginning, we only had a few percentage points. I don’t know, maybe it is 2 or 3. Some of the state legislatures we are fighting with, if lucky, there are 1 or 2 women in the Senate, and by the way, maybe 4 African Americans. south.
Therefore, it has changed, but it is still far from equality. I think this amendment will help us (if realized) not only to achieve equality, but also to gain respect and the idea that we can do anything. I hope this is good for the next generation. It’s so bad. We know we just need to solve it. It’s too outrageous so I think it’s 2021 and I can’t wait to watch it. Hope everyone can see.
Okay thank you. Regarding this point, let’s end the show with another clip represented by Shirley Chisholm on January 25, 1972, because she announced her election for president with a democratic vote.
Americans all over Washington demand a new emotion, a new philosophy of government. I don’t want to send spies to spy on participants on Earth Day. Instead, I welcome the efforts of citizens of all ages to stop the abuse of the environment. I want to encourage young people to speak up, organize peaceful change, and vote in November, instead of watching football matches on TV while begging the president to show interest in our actions abroad.
I will not limit my efforts to control the huge sums of money provided by the rich and the wealthy to political candidates. Instead, I will limit these amounts and encourage all the people of this country to donate to the candidates of their choice. Instead of calculating the political cost of this or that policy and weighing the favor of this or that group, it depends on whether that group voted for me in 1968. I now want to remind all Americans of Abraham Lincoln. Separate houses cannot stand.
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